anybody heard the new songs..i heard about 4
there really good.. id say mostlikley death magnetic
left overs..since theyve been busy with playing and
doing that ill fated (why?) lou reed thing.. i mean lou
hasnt moved for 20 years.. frozen in time .. his place
was in the stooges era..velvet underground.. i dont know
i love metallica but sometimes i wonder.. besides death
magnetic..the releases before that were sub par.. load,reload,
st anger was ok.. Megadeths last 5 lps were excellent.. so whats
with metallica.. i think well its like any band..they remain on the
same level after so many years..like aerosmith..the last efforts
were good..but in no magnitude of the early stuff..like toys in the
attic..even the later stuff..well we all have our faves..me ill stick
with kill em all upto garage days..load..well thats where the mighty
metallica fade to black...
I dunno, "Death Magnetic" was alright I guess. I don't know what to make out of the Lou Reed side project, "Lulu". I am guessing, for whatever reason, that because of both Metallica & Lou Reed's underground credo, that they felt this would be a complimentary union. I dunno, but again, my feelings are mixed on this. Technically, if you ask my honest to God opinion Brian, I don't feel personally that Metallica has even put out a consistently classic/great record since the black album.
My feelings on the comparisons between Metallica & Megadeth, are a bit kinda flip flop for me. If a lot of people in the past, up until the present, have considered Megadeth a sell out, I personally think that type of credibility should all the more go to Metallica. At least with Megadeth, despite being signed to a major record label, they may have experimented with their music, but they also haven't sacrificed who they are for anyone, whereas Metallica have! You know this to be a fact. Just listen to the Godawful contrasts between the black album versus Load or Reload. This will be enough to scream a totally ugly sell out thing! I mean, what was Metallica thinking when they put out Load or Reload? Alternative Metal? How sorry can you get when you aren't an Alternative Metal band?
Now, if you want to talk about other bands within the Big 4 that have also likewise not sacrificed their sound one bit, then look no further than Anthrax & Slayer. And, although I could probably do without Slayer's pseudo satanic posturing, I would rather wear an Anthrax t-shirt. Outside of the Big 4, let's not forget about some other very important bands from the U.S. underground Thrash scene like: Testament, Overkill, Dark Angel, Death Angel, Exodus, Sacred Reich, and underdogs, Flotsam & Jetsam. There were a handful of some other excellent underground bands too, no less important than the biggies, but that were just as good as the aforementioned bands. Yes, let me tell you Brian, the West Coast & East Coast Thrash Metal scenes of the 80's were very huge and yielded some excellent bands. However, let us too not forget the Canadian Metal scene which had bands like, of course, Anvil, Razor and Annihilator. I may have forgotten some others from our Canadian brethren, but the Thrash phenomena, albeit at the time in the 80's, was largely on an underground scale, and there were bands from like everywhere across the globe. Even England had some excellent Thrash Metal bands, and weren't exactly a hotbed for this style, particularly in the 80's when this was the home to the NWOBHM.
Unfortunately, the phenomena/genre that Metallica helped to create pales into existence in my book when there was so many other great bands from the 80's that could be listened to. Were Metallica the kings of Bay Area Thrash? Not in my book, no they are not. Before Metallica had existed, there was Exodus, which Metallica was only a supporting act to, not to mention Kirk Hammett was Exodus guitar player, prior to him leaving for Metallica. Besides, Metallica were originally from L.A. anyway, which was the hot bed for Glam/Pop/Hair metal. They only moved to the Bay Area because their style wasn't accepted. Had Exodus been able to release "Bonded By Blood" a year or so before the original release date, "Bonded By Blood" would have been one of the first Thrash albums released, if not THE FIRST, but with the two year delay by the record company not releasing it, unfortunately, Kill Em' All took it's place, and sadly for Exodus, it was not meant to be! Again, Metallica WAS a great band. But now, in my personal opinion, I think Exodus has the right to supersede Metallica in the ranks of the Big 4. Still, none of what Metallica is currently doing now can light a torch to what they had accomplished in their early years. The best current come back success stories right now in the Big 4 would have to go to Anthrax, with their come back record, "Worship Music". Sorry, even "Death Magnetic", Metallica's supposed come back album, cannot light a torch to Anthrax "Worship Music". Hell, even Joey Belladonna is back on board as vocalist! You can't get any cooler than that!
very well pointed out..
and i had the same conclusion in the end Anthrax
was the comeback..excellent lp..
MegaDeth..i love em.. but was dissapointed at
a set i saw from the european tour..Dave seemed not
able to sing very loud..and didnt seem to be into it..he
seemed just there..i was really suprized at the dullness
of the set..
but the studio lps are far better than metallicas efforts
and have been consistant.. cryptic writings,end game,system has failed,united abominations..
and the new lp 13.. thats 5 consecutive metal lps and good ones..!!!
metallicas only release death magnetic since st anger..what does that say..
nice point about groups like Testament..and what about Dream Theatre...
i like Slayer but only a couple songs i think they should drop the devil bit..
its dull after a bit thats what the Crue did..after shout at the devil..
I do like the new EP, but St. Anger wasn't just a bad record, there were specific things wrong with it. Every one hates the drums for a damn good reason, also some of the songs were repetitive and the worst offender in my book was the production. That's what really killed the album for me. Quoting my favorite producer, Steve Albini "the guitars on that album were more processed that cat food". But, the album came with a DVD of the band rehearsing the whole album live. No annoying snare drum banging noise, no computer processing. It's raw, you can even hear the band making little mistakes as they play: a snare hit at the wrong time, hitting the wrong note, or getting one of the words wrong. Music made by people, instead of computers are supposed to have these kinds of things wrong with them. This might sound a little ocd, but I used a program I have rip the audio, and to make little edits to a couple of the songs so they're less repetitive. The changes are surprisingly seamless. I also deleted a couple of the track that weren't doing it for me. Still not their best, but it's actually an album I can enjoy now.
I also tried to make a fan edit of Load, and Reload by combining them into one album by just keeping the fast songs, but I didn't like it, then I realized the thing about those albums is that the faster the song is the worse it is lol. So I just kept the tracks I like. What I would up with sounds very much like a sludge metal album with a little country western flair, I know it sounds like a weird combination, but I really like it.
I think slayer has more or less dropped the whole satanism thing. They still talk about how they hate religion, but the last album with a pentagram on the cover was a good 15 years ago.
Loved Death Magnetic btw.
right on all accounts..seems to be the production of the cds..
look at an justice for all it was a little different from the trash metal
of the first 3..but still on the money..after the black album..they seemed to
do a progressive metal trip with load and reload..trying to be heavy,grungey and
mainstream all at once.. death magnetic came back to the basics.. i heard the new
songs well 5 of em and except the same as death magnetic..its about the best
formula thats selling..going back and trying a kill em all type album could be a recipe
for disaster.. they couldnt capture the magic and would end up sounding like
old farts trying to do speed metal.
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