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Red Baron & The Knights

1  Jonn 11 posts 3.4 months Was the band British? Posted 3 months 10 days ago Quote 2  Vinyl Junkie 1121 posts 1.3 years I have looked everywhere on the internet to try & find where ther could be any info, and man, you got something of a desired obscurity! V J Posted 3 months 9 days ago Quote 3  mike bryceland 111 posts 1.4 years Hi VJ, nice to be back, if only for a short while. Jonn, are you thinking of The Barron Knights? They were/are a British group, big in the 60's and early 70's and as far as I'm aware, still going. They are a comedy band well known for doing alternative covers of pop songs, much like Wierd Al Yankovick. Most likely to be found on the cabaret circuit nowadays and wether there are any original members left I don't know. Not sure but I believe they might have had an album called The Red Barron. Posted 3 months 9 days ago Quote 4  brian 963 posts 2.2 years Quote: Originally Posted By mike bryceland: Hi VJ, nice to be back, if only for a short while. Jonn, are you thinking of The Barron Knights? They were/are a British group, big in the 60's and early 70's and as far as I'm aware, still going. They are a comedy band well known for doing alternative covers of pop songs, much like Wierd Al Yankovick. Most likely to be found on the cabaret circuit nowadays and wether there are any original members left I don't know. Not sure but I believe they might have had an album called The Red Barron. Mike .. guess they would be along the same lines as the Royal Guardsmen who did the snoopy thing... Posted 3 months 8 days ago Quote 5  Jonn 11 posts 3.4 months I do not know about comedy band but they had a song i think called "keep it long" and "my old mans a dustman". music from my youth and i cannot look for it if i do not know who it is. Posted 3 months 7 days ago Quote 6  mike bryceland 111 posts 1.4 years Got me scratching my head on this one Jonn. Like VJ I've had a good look round and can find no reference to a band of that name anywhere. Checked out The Barron Knights and there is no album called The Red Barron so I was wrong there however "Keep it Long" sounds like it may have humorous overtones and "My Old Man's a Dustman" was definitly a comedy record (one of my early childhood favourites) by Lonnie Donnigan, The King of Skiffle, back in the early 60's. The only other version I know of was by the BeeGees. So we are on the right track with British and comedy. What years was your youth? Good luck, hope this gets you closer to what you are looking for. Posted 3 months 7 days ago Quote 7  Vinyl Junkie 1121 posts 1.3 years It sounds like one of those ridiculous "Snoopy Vs. The Red Baron" instro-spoof/exploitation type concepts of the time, without really anything to be taken too seriously. In fact, a lot of that stuff, beyond a doubt, was created by quite professional musicians, albeit studio ones, and not REAL actual live touring bands/artists to support the albums/singles. Most of the time, many such efforts were just goofball attempts to try and cash in on whatever music would have been popular of the time, or as tax write offs to ensure certain record companies more money. So, the record company says: Hey, let's form a faceless band guys & make us some quick money right? A lot of times it worked, and other times, nobody bought into the novelty if it didn't become a hit to begin with. Has anyone ever heard the Disco exploitation records of the mid to late 70's? I haven't, but most of the people/record collectors who in fact collect them tell me they are awful as well! The same was happening in the psych & prog eras of the late 60's & early to mid 70's, with the cheesy/low budget Psych & Prog exploitation albums coming out at the time. Some were actually good, whereas others were utter drivel! Even in the 80's, Heavy Metal was being exploited in the most awful fashion possible, and most of it, like Punk, before the 80's, was being exploited on major record labels to cash in on the success of those styles that were popular of the time, but much of those exploits were unprofessional faceless garbage of that time. When you look at the history of rock music, or any current trend that a record company can cash in on, there is always some effort consistently being made to exploit music, at times, underground types of music, but the difference today is that there is lot more faceless unprofessional musical posers/imposters commercially getting airplay on the radio nowadays than ever before. Today, as far as modern rock radio is concerned, let's just call it pseudo metal as opposed to nu metal, or is it really true heavy metal anymore? I doubt it! The only place it seems these days where you can find true genuine music anymore is in the independent/underground scenes! The days of major record labels promoting home grown underground talent are pretty much over and done.......... Sadly, the exploitation efforts of the 60's actually sound much better & professional than these poser/ imposter type bands/artists you hear on the radio these days. So, may Snoopy & The Red Baron return? What do you think? Lol V J Posted 3 months 6 days ago Quote 8  Jonn 11 posts 3.4 months Mike, keep it long was more about the hairstyle and not joining the royal navy as the song went. kind of a british version of anti-war as it was. the year i heard the song was 1972 i was about 7 or 8 yrs. old but it sounded kind of rockish. my old mans a dustman was about a chimney sweep kind of whimsical. and V J , wow.... thanks ya'll Posted 3 months 6 days ago Quote 9  mike bryceland 111 posts 1.4 years Not joining the Navy? OK, now I know. As I originaly thought, the band you are looking for is The Barron Knights. Back in the late 50s' and early 60s' the knee jerk reaction to Rock n Roll was astonishingly hostile, sneered at vociferously by the old guard such as Frank Sinatra, Dean Martin and so on plus the horrified parents on both sides of the Atlantic. Anyone with hair one inch longer than a short back and sides was seen as a cinema seat slashing teenage delinquent. Riding the coattails of this condescending mockery The Barron Knights released a single, "Call Up The Groups", the idea of the song being to send all the popular groups of the time on National Service (Drafted) and to do their part for Queen and Country instead of being long haired layabouts making a Godawful racket on the radio. I think it may have been to the tune of Needles and Pins, not sure about that though. The Keep It Long bit was about sending The Rolling Stones to join the Navy and having their hair cut. My parents thought this hilarious. So.... Call Up The Groups parts 1 + 2 - EMI - Columbia DB7317 - 1964 As for "My Old Mans A Dustman" refer to my previous answer. A Dustman is not a chimney sweep, he is one of the guys that takes away the household rubbish each week. (For chimney sweep check out Dick Van Dyke singing Chim Chim Cheree in the film Mary Poppins, one of the best ever American attempts at a british accent.) It was by Lonnie Donnegan, one of, if not THE biggest names in Skiffle. This was a British variation on American Rock n Roll, more of a frantic version of Country music or old Southern Blues. This was the movement that gave birth to The Beatles. One young man who went to a Lonnie Donnegan gig at the young age of twelve told him he had a guitar at home. Lonnie said "Bring it along next time and I'll show you how to tune and play it." That was Jimmy Page. See the movie It Might Get Loud, he talks about it there. So.... My Old Man's A Dustman - Pye UK 7N15256 - 1960 P.S. I joined the Navy and cut my hair. Posted 3 months 5 days ago Quote 10  Jonn 11 posts 3.4 months Thanks mike. i now feel more informed and can find what i am looking for. i was young when i heard it so i was sure i did not have the right info. cut my hair and went coast guard. Posted 3 months 3 days ago Quote Add Reply

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