I have been collecting albums for quite a number of years and i do not intend to sell any of them. however i tend to buy albums when i find them that are "for promotional use only , not for sale". some stamped in gold lettering and some just with stickers. are these considered more collectable ? i also buy mis-prints for that reason and the sound quality is always good. some examples are beach boys promo, living colour promo, krokus promo, madonna double sided mis-print.
promo discs are collectable..
but if its just a stamp or sticker on the cover those
are not worth much..promo lps have to have promotional use only
printed on the label and a different label from the regular..
these are called white label promos.,and highly collectable..
mispressings can be also quite collectable depending on the lp
like kiss alive II that has take me and do you love me printed on the
back cover but actually was omitted from the release..
i also have the picture disc of tails of THE MONKEES and when you play
it the actuall audio on both sides is a beatles documentery with some music
medleys played by some cover band.
Thanks brian.
I looked at most and they do have the white promo label with the exception to the talking heads album.
One album (england dan and john ford coley / dr.heckle and mr. jive)promo label also states "ownership and right to possession reserved by atlantic recording corporation".
The madonna album is a 45rpm picture disc of Madonna Interview limited edition, both sides are side 2 and serial numbers are 924 and 980. is this the way it was intended ? or a mis-press? as there are no paper labels, it is in the press. thanks for your input.
Jonn
For me personally, I am usually fine if I can find the original releases from the original artists on the original record labels. More times, often than not, if I can't find them for an inexpensive price, I am usually happy just to find a vinyl reissue just the same, reissued from the original master tapes. I collect records for the music, not really for the sport. Novelty items like picture discs or colored discs may be fine, but you always sacrifice sound quality for collectability.
With that said, some original black vinyl promo copies are the best to collect of all, because I truly do believe, like test pressings, can have some of the best sound quality out of any pressing, of course, given the year. Most times, you come to find out that the original pressings, sound wise, will suffice. I guess promos can be cool if and when I chance upon them, but I have never made a huge deal if I don't. Then again, as I said earlier, I am not into collecting vinyl just for the sport..........
Originally Posted By Jonn: Thanks brian.
I looked at most and they do have the white promo label with the exception to the talking heads album.
One album (england dan and john ford coley / dr.heckle and mr. jive)promo label also states "ownership and right to possession reserved by atlantic recording corporation".
The madonna album is a 45rpm picture disc of Madonna Interview limited edition, both sides are side 2 and serial numbers are 924 and 980. is this the way it was intended ? or a mis-press? as there are no paper labels, it is in the press. thanks for your input.
Jonn
John..
id say your madonna is a miss press..
as i said i have a monkees lp and its a beatles documentry on the vynil
and no monkees at all.. so id really say mispress..
usually those interview discs are made by a cheap operation company under
some unknown label..
good about your promos stamped or printed on the disc label..
as i said those with stickers or stamps on the back or front are worthless..
Thanks brian and V J.
I do "collect" albums but i play them not just look at them or try to make a profit from them.
However i like to know the background on them to be able to speak intelligently about a particular band or albums history.
thanks again.
Originally Posted By Jonn: Thanks brian and V J.
I do "collect" albums but i play them not just look at them or try to make a profit from them.
However i like to know the background on them to be able to speak intelligently about a particular band or albums history.
thanks again.
cool Jonn,,
you right sometimes theres some facinating tidbits on some
albums we own or know about.. theres sometimes history..
like the beatles while my guitar gently wheeps..its actually
eric claptons guitar wheeping.. most people know that but theres
still lots to discover...
Brian,
"..promo lps have to have promotional use only
printed on the label and a different label from the regular..
these are called white label promos.,and highly collectable.."
I assume that "white label" doesn't literally mean the label is white, or does it? I have thousands of 45s, that are promo copies,that look similar to "store bought" records except for the catalog number,the matrix etchings and the "not for sale", "radio use only" "for promo us only" etc..on the label. Is that what collectors consider "white label"?
Hey Jonn,
Are they the same labels as the ones sold in stores with promo or not for sale added to it? For many years I opened up thousands of "promo" copies of records, cds etc to preview at whatever radio station I happened to be at. Promo copies from all labels were always labeled as such and were always from the 1st pressing and were sent to radio stations, major retail outlets and individuals who might be able to influence that records retail success. The label of a promo copy and a retail copy was usually the same except that promo copies said "promo" on the label. Occasionally, we'd get advance copies of a song because a label wanted radio to get it before the time it would take for labeling and processing to occur. The label on these records and cds were generic, white labels with the info typed or handwritten on it. Sometimes, the actual vinyl or cd was the same as would eventually come in the mail. Sometimes, if it was on CD it would come on acetate. If your "white labels" are generic labels, unlike the label sold in stores, then you have a guaranteed 1st pressing. What I don't know is if collectors/sellers consider only "white" labels as legitimate promo copies. If they do, they're mistaken.
Originally Posted By Chuck White: Brian,
"..promo lps have to have promotional use only
printed on the label and a different label from the regular..
these are called white label promos.,and highly collectable.."
I assume that "white label" doesn't literally mean the label is white, or does it? I have thousands of 45s, that are promo copies,that look similar to "store bought" records except for the catalog number,the matrix etchings and the "not for sale", "radio use only" "for promo us only" etc..on the label. Is that what collectors consider "white label"?
hey chuck..
thanks for all your info..
i was refering to white lable promos as being most collectable..
having a generic white label .. the others can have different color
labels but usually say not for sale or the back cover just has a sticker
or a stamp these promos are not really worth anything..theres so many
i know i have black sabbath sabotage and it has a sticker on the cover
saying promotional use and its also printed in black on the label not for sale
but its the standard warner label..so id say its nice to have but not as
much collecting value as the white label promos..
Stangely... a white label disc doesn't need to have a 'white' label!
Although often it does refer to a totally blank white label with no markings... a white label tends to be the term referred to any promotional disc... the disc having writing on it that states within the design that it is for 'promotional use' or 'demonstration sample' or 'DJ only' type text.
These do always tend to be rarer than the regular issues, true first pressings... records with stickers or that embossed gold stamp that states demo or promo... these stickers and stamps could easily be reproduced and stuck on anything, and it doesn't mean it was to promote the record in the first wave of pressing.
It is worth noting however... some white labels / demo's are worth less than regular issues... sometimes this is due to the general output to the public was so feeble or the regular versions were withdrawn... leaving many more white labels in circulation.
... the Black Sabbath 'sabbotage' LP, the sticker on the cover means little, but if the text on the label states it... then you have a good rare version... many promo/demo/white label disc would be put in a regular release sleeve... without stickers or stamps... only if you are really lucky will you pick up a promotional only sleeve, these are rare, because most companies couldn't be bothered making them.
yes the sabotage has a pink sticker on the cover witht the
warner logo.. (nothing special there) but it does have the normal
warner label but it has "not for Sale" printed in regular lettering..
thats a little more interesting.. as you say having a gold embossed stamp
on the cover or just a sticker donest hold any value..there just radio copies
of the same lp you buy in the store except it has the stamp..
i have a rolling stones metamorphosis with a promo not for sale sticker on it
but the label has noting noted on it..
yes the sabotage has a pink sticker on the cover witht the
warner logo.. (nothing special there) but it does have the normal
warner label but it has "not for Sale" printed in regular lettering..
thats a little more interesting.. as you say having a gold embossed stamp
on the cover or just a sticker donest hold any value..there just radio copies
of the same lp you buy in the store except it has the stamp..
i have a rolling stones metamorphosis with a promo not for sale sticker on it
but the label has noting noted on it..
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